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Not an easy career path.

7y7(醉里吴音)

My boss was an internal auditor, this was more common years ago though. CAs from auditing background are losing the ground in the industry. Also pharmaceutical companies are very tight on headcount. General trend is to outsource and/or centralize everything possible. The local Finance focus has been moving towards to business decision support. Tax or audit is not a good career path for corporate finance anymore.

I would suggest you to try corporate finance in the area, don't be too specific about industry. You just never know. A family should always stay together.

(#84060@41)
Last Updated: 2015-5-11

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母亲节快乐! 向大家汇报一下最新的职业发展设想: -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-10 {945} (#84047@41)
1) 读会计博士的路: 向资深人士请教并详细评估后认为我可以申请到美国大学, 但靠前的好大学,如top20 是不可能了。如果博士毕业还要留在加拿大做faculty, 时间总长度为11年, 非常辛苦, 不建议。如果博士毕业海归非top高校, 可以, work life balance 有保证。
经过与老公的商讨，孩子小, 老公工作前景难以预测, 这个选项倾向于放弃, 很不甘心, 觉得学术高大上,但两地分居苦了孩子。
2) 不折腾: 就继续做熟练的税务审计, 在本地生活的话, 是最优选择, 工作时间灵活, 方便照顾小孩。但是我老公有未来回国的想法, 那样我不知道怎么才能衔接，或者根本无法衔接，终将造成巨大职业损失。
3)冒一些风险折腾一下: 再过一年, 等小孩一岁半以后回四大, 争取做医药健康行业的审计, 然后跳槽健康类企业财务,将来如果老公归,回去容易直接做财务经理。如果老公不归, 就一直企业财务待下去，同时兼职做点儿个人税务业务。损失就是白白苦累分居几年,结果生活方式还不如2)轻松省力顾孩子婚姻稳定。

请问大家对我分析的怎么看, 我不懂公司财务的职业发展, 主要是自己在国内有行业背景, 所以想做医药健康类的财务, 回去不至于断裂。

各位妈妈们给点儿insight 吧孩子两岁到四岁这么个时间要是妈妈经常加班或者两地分居跟着一方这种生活行不行啊我现在觉得不太行但是又有另一种声音说父母应该不畏艰难为孩子打造更好的起点平台小时候的艰苦咬咬牙就过去了很快 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 (#84054@41)

I don't think it's a good idea. You are simply not competitive enough in Big 4 at this point of life. I have only seen people leaving Big4 for kids, not joining Big4 for kids. -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-11 (#84056@41)

Sorry that I don't understand your 'options'. None of them makes sense to me. How long have you been in Canada? What's your current status? -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-11 {105} (#84055@41)
I have been in corporate finance of healthcare industry for 10+ years. Very few people here is from Big4.

来了快十年了读了一个本科进的四大跳了一下做税务审计休产假中主要是我老公可能要回国我想要回国怎么弄不回国的话挺想读博士去但他这个也没定下来什么时候回 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 (#84058@41)
确实不太懂主要是我想去一个pharmaceutical 或者biotech的公司但是我们这里没有我就知道一个四大同事是跳去做了biotech小公司的controller 我想是不是也按她那么走做做audit然后跳公司 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 (#84059@41)

Not an easy career path. -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-11 {574} (#84060@41) +1
My boss was an internal auditor, this was more common years ago though. CAs from auditing background are losing the ground in the industry. Also pharmaceutical companies are very tight on headcount. General trend is to outsource and/or centralize everything possible. The local Finance focus has been moving towards to business decision support. Tax or audit is not a good career path for corporate finance anymore.

I would suggest you to try corporate finance in the area, don't be too specific about industry. You just never know. A family should always stay together.

有道理我仔细想想两地确实太难 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 (#84062@41)
Very well said! -jinx99(FAPI); 2015-5-11 (#84063@41)
不好意思人在医院,回复得慢了一些。仔细看了一下,吴音的建议和之前帮我做assessment 的资深人士谈到的是一样的,就是直接去公司财务, -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 {283} (#84064@41)
行业不要过分限制。非常感谢你的建议。吴音说的business decision support 我非常感兴趣, 您可以再介绍介绍吗？这是不是financial analyst职位? 应该怎么进呢？没有公司财务经历可以直接找吗？实际上一直做税也是因为对常规的财务工作不是特别感兴趣,一直没有做一个选项。就是老公这个工作的事比较突然。

你的给你做assessment的资深人士是怎么找的？能share一下吗？谢谢！ -happiesttiger(老虎聪聪); 2015-5-11 (#84066@41)

行, 我问问他是否能分享他的联系方式。是收费的啊。问过了再回复本帖。 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 (#84071@41) +1

谢谢！ -happiesttiger(老虎聪聪); 2015-5-11 (#84072@41)

请查收邮件这里是不能做广告所以就不公开写了 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-13 (#84092@41)

I was at Financial Analyst position for a long time. Business decision support role is definately more interesting than general accounting. The main challenge is communication skills and business acumen. -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-11 {44} (#84068@41)
I think your qualification is strong enough.

非常感谢吴音,我明年孩子大一些会试着直接找这个职位。到时给您和大家反馈。 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-11 (#84070@41)

Best wishes! -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-12 {181} (#84080@41)
I went through 2 mat leaves and job hunting all over not too long ago.
Parenting is far more challenging than career. Be patient and keep trying, you will get what you deserve :-)

谢谢吴音鼓励，我加油。 -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-13 (#84093@41)

昨天fail了一个面试，公司内部职位，也是要求biz acumen和为高层提供commercial support。没能举出令人信服的例子。 -canadafei(画船听雨眠); 2015-5-12 (#84075@41)

这个不奇怪，公司职位一般首选内部员工，FA skill sets和会计区别还是蛮多的，所以外招的机会多。平时多和其他部门打打交道，多表现点好奇心，会有帮助的。 -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-12 (#84084@41)

能问一下为什么tax也不是一个好的方向呢？谢谢！ -happiesttiger(老虎聪聪); 2015-5-11 (#84065@41)

Tax I s very specialized, less transferrable skills. Subject expert usually makes more, but relatively narrower career path. -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-11 (#84067@41)

但是难道不会正是因为非常specialized，所以入行门槛高些，竞争少些，可以相对稳定，这口饭吃的相对长些？尤其加拿大是个高税收的国家？//欢迎77回归，很久没看到你在论坛上出现了： ) -happiesttiger(老虎聪聪); 2015-5-11 (#84073@41)

你说得也不错，在深和广之间，要有选择的。现在越来越少企业有自己的税务部门，外包很多。/不好意思，太忙啦。在训练跑步，刚完成一个半程马拉松 :-) -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-12 (#84074@41)

这个更值得景仰!!! -moumou18(moumou); 2015-5-12 (#84076@41)

是啊，太佩服了，这得多大毅力啊！ -gingerflower(Gingerflower); 2015-5-12 (#84078@41)

我是3年前产假结束后，身材体力差得无法忍受，开始认真跑步的。从一开始５分钟都坚持不下来，到５公里，１０公里，21.1公里，今年秋天打算冲刺42.2公里马拉松，人生意义在于折腾 :-) -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-12 (#84082@41)

真励志！ -gingerflower(Gingerflower); 2015-5-12 (#84085@41)

对啊！ 77总是有惊喜！下次会计论坛专门给你组织个啦啦队！ -jinx99(FAPI); 2015-5-12 (#84079@41)

好啊好啊，一定来给我加油 :-) -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-12 (#84081@41)

谢谢分享经验。business decision support 的会计职位除了Financial Analysis/Planning方向，还有哪些？ -gingerflower(Gingerflower); 2015-5-12 (#84077@41)

Sales analytics, marketing research, logistics demand planning, etc. -7y7(醉里吴音); 2015-5-12 (#84083@41)

嗯，方向还不少。谢谢！ -gingerflower(Gingerflower); 2015-5-12 (#84086@41)
我以前在大学教过市场研究方法， -eldoon(面条); 2015-5-13 {538} (#84094@41)
也在研究所里做过。市场研究的话，跟accounting的技能相差比较大。市场研究方法的定性层面，可能由于语言的限制，访谈，焦点小组，实验等等，移民去做的难度很大。定量方面，高级统计学仅仅是必须的功底，在此基础上对研究对象有深层次的理解，是真正做好回归拟合的关键。最后，出报告是考验写作和演说水平的。我个人感觉，做好市场研究除了comunication skills和business acumen之外，还需要或者高强的统计功底，或者对个体语言/文化/心理的准确把握。总之，从技术角度看，不适合非市场研究背景的移民会计人员直接去做。也可能我理解错了这里面提到的的marketing research工作。

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Not an easy career path.

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